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	<title>Comments on: Michelle Obama has never been proud of her country before?</title>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://www.neoconnews.com/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-has-never-been-proud-of-her-country-before/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I updated the story to reflect the new quote. Thanks for the feedback.

Roy makes a good point as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I updated the story to reflect the new quote. Thanks for the feedback.</p>
<p>Roy makes a good point as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Mustang</title>
		<link>http://www.neoconnews.com/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-has-never-been-proud-of-her-country-before/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Mustang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/764fosie.asp?pg=1

From the same speech:

&quot;And just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment...&quot;

&quot;Life for regular folks has gotten worse over the course of my lifetime, through Republican and Democratic administrations. It hasn&#039;t gotten much better.&quot;

Life getting worse.  Frustration.  Disappointment.   Yeah, that certainly sounds like she has been proud of America.</description>
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<p>From the same speech:</p>
<p>&#8220;And just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Life for regular folks has gotten worse over the course of my lifetime, through Republican and Democratic administrations. It hasn&#8217;t gotten much better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Life getting worse.  Frustration.  Disappointment.   Yeah, that certainly sounds like she has been proud of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Irving Washington</title>
		<link>http://www.neoconnews.com/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-has-never-been-proud-of-her-country-before/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Irving Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen videos that have the &#039;popping&#039; audio, and ones that do not. 

I can see how you would still interpret it in the way you have, and I don&#039;t think it was an especially bright thing to say, if only because it leaves her open to that kind of interpretation.

A number of other sites have updated their stories to reflect their inaccuracies, including the article quoted at the start of this page. I wonder why you haven&#039;t? If your thoughts do not change with the full quote, then surely accurate reporting is preferable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen videos that have the &#8216;popping&#8217; audio, and ones that do not. </p>
<p>I can see how you would still interpret it in the way you have, and I don&#8217;t think it was an especially bright thing to say, if only because it leaves her open to that kind of interpretation.</p>
<p>A number of other sites have updated their stories to reflect their inaccuracies, including the article quoted at the start of this page. I wonder why you haven&#8217;t? If your thoughts do not change with the full quote, then surely accurate reporting is preferable?</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://www.neoconnews.com/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-has-never-been-proud-of-her-country-before/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My version is the version that was released when the story came out. If you watch the video at hot air, I see how it was missed at first because the audio pops on the word &quot;really&quot;. Leaving &quot;really&quot; out of it wasn&#039;t something I did after the fact to manipulate anything.

Nevertheless, I don&#039;t read it like you do, and I don&#039;t find that the modifier &quot;really&quot;  drastically changes the statement. It&#039;s still a really unbelievably mind-numbing thing to say.

A black man having a chance at the Presidency is not something that singularly deserves someone being &quot;really proud&quot; of the United States.

There are a massive amount of things that we should be &quot;unreservedly proud&quot; of. That Michelle Obama would say what she did is very telling. At the very least you are being &lt;em&gt;extremely&lt;/em&gt; generous in your interpretation of Michelle Obama&#039;s words. You might want to check out the Levin audio in the new update to see where others are coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My version is the version that was released when the story came out. If you watch the video at hot air, I see how it was missed at first because the audio pops on the word &#8220;really&#8221;. Leaving &#8220;really&#8221; out of it wasn&#8217;t something I did after the fact to manipulate anything.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I don&#8217;t read it like you do, and I don&#8217;t find that the modifier &#8220;really&#8221;  drastically changes the statement. It&#8217;s still a really unbelievably mind-numbing thing to say.</p>
<p>A black man having a chance at the Presidency is not something that singularly deserves someone being &#8220;really proud&#8221; of the United States.</p>
<p>There are a massive amount of things that we should be &#8220;unreservedly proud&#8221; of. That Michelle Obama would say what she did is very telling. At the very least you are being <em>extremely</em> generous in your interpretation of Michelle Obama&#8217;s words. You might want to check out the Levin audio in the new update to see where others are coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: Irving Washington</title>
		<link>http://www.neoconnews.com/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-has-never-been-proud-of-her-country-before/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Irving Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re misquoting her. She said &quot;for the first time in my life, I am really proud of my country.&quot;

That&#039;s very different to saying &quot;for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.&quot;

Your version suggests that she has never been proud before. 

The actual version suggests that she &lt;i&gt;has &lt;/i&gt; been proud before, most likely of many of the things that you list. However, she may feel that because this is the first time that a black man and a woman have a genuine chance to become president, she can be unreservedly proud. 

I am sure you are not misquoting her deliberately, because that would hardly be fair, so I thought I&#039;d alert you to your error.

Regards,

Irving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re misquoting her. She said &#8220;for the first time in my life, I am really proud of my country.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s very different to saying &#8220;for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your version suggests that she has never been proud before. </p>
<p>The actual version suggests that she <i>has </i> been proud before, most likely of many of the things that you list. However, she may feel that because this is the first time that a black man and a woman have a genuine chance to become president, she can be unreservedly proud. </p>
<p>I am sure you are not misquoting her deliberately, because that would hardly be fair, so I thought I&#8217;d alert you to your error.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Irving.</p>
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